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CEO Robert Nardelli, left, and CEO Alan Mulally of the once proud Chrysler and Ford sit grim as they are mocked by Senators while pleading for a 3 percent cut of the bailout bill. The use private jets by GM, Ford, and Chrysler's executives proved ammo for critics in the heated Congressional testimony Wednesday.  (Source: AP)
The future of many tech programs such as the Chevy Volt and Ford Fusion Hybrid hang in the balance, at the government's mercy

As DailyTech previously reported, both GM and Ford are almost out of cash.  GM will likely run out of cash by the end of the quarter and have to file for bankruptcy or break up its business if the government will provide a financial lifeline.  While it’s obvious that America's big auto companies lost touch in the 90s and early 2000s, producing a slew of inefficient big trucks and SUVs while foreign competitors stole away sales with more compact efficient cars, they are an integral part of America's economy.

With the fate of many major tech initiatives, such as GM's Chevy Volt and Ford's new Fusion hybrid hanging in the balance, the country's economic future also is at peril as if even one of the big three fall, it could plunge the deeper into recession -- or worse -- according to financial experts. 

It’s hard not to draw comparisons to another industry troubled by mismanagement and economic misfortune -- the U.S. banking industry.  And while the federal government was quick to bailout banking, finance, and housing firms to the tune of $750B USD in taxpayer burden, the government appears to be unwilling to offer the automakers a $25B USD bailout.

Flying to Washington, Alan Mulally CEO of Ford, Robert Nardelli CEO of Chrysler and Richard Wagoner CEO of GM met with members of Congress in special hearings, begging them for a share of the bailout money.  Many in the Senate, led by Republican opposition were unimpressed.  Some Senators went as far as to mock the CEOs use of private jets as they came asking for financial relief.

"It's almost like seeing a guy show up at the soup kitchen in high hat and tuxedo. It kind of makes you a little bit suspicious," stated Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-New York.

He added, "There is a delicious irony in seeing private luxury jets flying into Washington, D.C., and people coming off of them with tin cups in their hand, saying that they're going to be trimming down and streamlining their businesses."

He continued to mock the auto executives, remarking, "Couldn't you all have downgraded to first class or jet-pooled or something to get here? It would have at least sent a message that you do get it."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has declined to move the bailout measure towards a vote as the measure appears far short of the 60 vote majority needed.

The automakers were grilled at the hearing from all sides.  Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, asked the automakers to raise their hands if they flew commercial.  No hands went up.  He then chided, "Let the record show, no hands went up.  Second, I'm going to ask you to raise your hand if you are planning to sell your jet in place now and fly back commercial. Let the record show, no hands went up."

The executives refused to respond to the sarcastic remarks on the Senate floor, instead trying to shift the focus to how they're restructuring their business.  Later, spokespeople for the companies defended the use of jets, saying CEOs need them for safety and most major American companies use them.  GM spokesman Tom Wilkinson stated, "Making a big to-do about this when issues vital to the jobs of millions of Americans are being discussed in Washington is diverting attention away from a critical debate that will determine the future health of the auto industry and the American economy."

Chrysler's spokeswoman Lori McTavish said in a press statement, "While always being mindful of company costs, all business travel requires the highest standard of safety for all employees."

Some political analysts are supporting the harsh Congressional criticism.  Says Thomas Schatz, president of the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste, "If it is simply the company's money at stake, then only the shareholders can be upset or feel as it might be excessive.  [But in this case] it's outrageous.  They're coming to Washington to beg the taxpayers to help them. It's unseemly to be running around on a $20,000 flight versus a $500 round trip."



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Subsidies, Redux
By nah on 11/20/2008 9:16:02 AM , Rating: 5
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And while the federal government was quick to bailout banking, finance, and housing firms to the tune of $750B USD in taxpayer burden, the government appears to be unwilling to offer the automakers a $25B USD bailout.


I wonder why...

As I've said in a previous post--the auto companies should shape up--or shape out




RE: Subsidies, Redux
By 306maxi on 11/20/2008 9:22:25 AM , Rating: 2
I agree that GM and Ford need to shape up but.... a good deal of their problems are down the the deals done with the unions in the past which make life very difficult for Ford and GM.

I also feel that 25 billion is nothing when you compare it to the money that's already been spent on the financial system which will probably end up being a good deal more.

I think if the financial system gets bailed out with 750 million then there's NO reason why they automotive sector shouldn't be bailed out similarly. At least the car makers didn't cause the problem themselves like the banks did.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By bribud on 11/20/2008 10:03:08 AM , Rating: 5
Ok, but then when do you stop giving handouts? If the auto industry gets a handout, then who is going to be the next large company to stand in line with their tin cups in hand? Eventually, there needs to be a line drawn and the government needs to be very careful with the American taxpayers' money. In tough times, companies fail. That's the way it is. People can't go through life knowing there is always a net under them so it's ok to fail. To me it seems large industries like this should be the ones you would help out LESS because they should be self-sufficient and be held accountable. If the major, large companies aren't held accountable, then who the hell will be?


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By headbox on 11/20/2008 12:05:53 PM , Rating: 4
I agree 100%. It's no longer a free market, but welfare for the rich.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By teldar on 11/20/2008 7:41:56 PM , Rating: 2
You think it's going to be better under Obama? He's already basically said he's a socialist. Except I bet the ultra-wealthy don't pay any more taxes than what they already do.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By majBUZZ on 11/21/2008 2:13:45 PM , Rating: 1
clap clap clap you get the i don't think for myself just repeat talking points award for the day.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By Jim28 on 11/21/2008 3:41:04 PM , Rating: 2
give yourself one as well.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By erikejw on 11/23/2008 1:10:53 PM , Rating: 3
"IKEA founder Ingvar Kamprad insists on flying coach, takes the subway to work, drives a ten-year-old Volvo, and avoids suits of any kind."
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Net worth about 50Billion$
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He argues, how can you expect others in the organisation to make good decisions about how to spend the company money if they see executives waste them like the funds are endless.
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http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_arc...
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RE: Subsidies, Redux
By AlexWade on 11/20/2008 2:15:49 PM , Rating: 5
I WANT A HANDOUT! I need some money or my business may go under. Small businesses are the backbone of America, and if they go under, we are really screwed. This economy is hurting me. So give me my handout.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 11/20/2008 3:01:05 PM , Rating: 3
Don't worry, Obama's tax program will have all small business closed inside of two years, which will cause the end of 80% of the jobs in the US. Then we will have no middle class. You will have no more financial problems - because you will have no money. You talk about now being trouble times, just wait for this next ride... If he has his way, you will be sick in the guts in no time flat.

To quote Star Wars: "So this is how a republic dies. To the sound of millions cheering"

Remember the guys who predict the financial future (stock traders), if they thought his plan was worth a nickel, stock would hold steady or start to rise..... Instead they are dropping like a rock. They understand what is going to happen to our financial future, it's not a guessing game to Economist - it's plugging in numbers (inflation, tax rates, GNP, average income....) into formulas which will spells out what will happen. His plan spells out death to the middle and upper middle class - the back bone to this country...

Have a nice day :)


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By michael67 on 11/20/08, Rating: 0
RE: Subsidies, Redux
By Ringold on 11/20/2008 4:54:24 PM , Rating: 2
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Yeah your highs are higher then ours wen economy go's good, but your lows are also lower when it go's bad,


Actually, if you look at unemployment data for several Western European nations, Europe can maintain 8-10% unemployment for long stretches of time where 10% unemployment in generally a short-term low point in America. There's several strange misunderstandings in your post, such as the belief the Euro-zone is in better shape right now, which could be corrected if you bothered yourself with looking at data and financial news.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 11/20/2008 5:47:08 PM , Rating: 4
Yea, we've had about 16 years of very poor financial status. However, the average American is more concern with the looks and charm of our leaders then they are concerned about the background and knowledge the leaders have to lead us into better times. Most US citizen have their blinders on and refuse to look at the truth... They think the problems are new (last 7 years), when the truth is these are very old problems that have never been address and now the troubles are coming to a head.

It does not matter who is president, going to be a crap job. However every Economist in the world knows if you want to slow down the growth of an economy you raise taxes. We here in the USA can not afford slower growth in our economy .5% has been a killer, we need to be back around 3 to 6% a good heath growth (more then 6% is also bad, some would say 6 is to high...)


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By ggordonliddy on 11/20/2008 7:35:01 PM , Rating: 1
Why are you posting comments when you obviously haven't passed 3rd grade English (or were just socially promoted to graduation)? Your spelling is deplorable.

What the hell does "firing ider" mean? And you do you really think that "and" is spelled as "en", and that "much" is spelled as "mouths"? Are you just trying to make people in Europe look extremely uneducated (if so you are succeeding brilliantly)? Maybe you are very drunk, or on crack, or both?


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By ggordonliddy on 11/20/2008 7:36:42 PM , Rating: 1
> And you do you

Yes, I know that should have been "And do you". !#@$ lack of Edit buttons... who the hell wrote this crappy comment software?


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By Ramos22 on 11/20/2008 9:57:06 PM , Rating: 1
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Are you just trying to make people in Europe look extremely uneducated (if so you are succeeding brilliantly)? Maybe you are very drunk, or on crack, or both?


and what culture/country/sect/religion/cult/race are you from? because your just making them look like stupid assholes.
Great logic huh?

There are many incredibly intelligent people in the world that can't speak an ounce of English.


RE: Subsidies, Redux
By michael67 on 11/21/2008 2:32:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why are you posting comments when you obviously haven't passed 3rd grade English (or were just socially promoted to graduation)? Your spelling is deplorable.

I am a offshore piping supervisor, and can do reports perfect in Dutch, and if i need to do one in English, i mailed it to the office. and have a secretary to have a look over it, to fix the mistakes.

So yes I have a small problem whit writing, (mild form of word blind) but i read and speak 6 languages,
Dutch, German, English, Danish, Swedish and Norwegian how many other languages do you speak and even better can wright in ???

I can do it in Dutch and English and Norwegian are sort of OK.

Its easy make crap about other people's little problems, but i wonder if you even can write in a other languish then English because, i have met a hell of a lot of Americans and 90% only can speak English and non other languishes