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Could your shiny new GPS unit or iPhone make you more likely to die from a lightning strike? According to Russia, yes

From cell phones to MP3 players to GPS units, the average person today carries with them a wide variety of electronics.  Some have playfully suggested that the devices and their electrical character could attract lightning during a thunderstorm.  Could such urban legends be true?  It depends on who you ask.

In the past two weeks in Russia, over a dozen people were killed or injured in lightning strikes.  Leonid Tarkov of the Russian government weather observation center FOBOS says portable electronics are to blame.  He said cellular phones and music players are like lightning magnets.  He stated, "These things are electromagnetic field carriers.  That makes them, in essence, conductors. Thunderbolts are frequently attracted to such things, and hits are often connected with a lethal outcome."

Such an idea is considered outlandish by the general scientific community.  Virtually all scientists believe that lightning cannot follow the weak electromagnetic fields produced by, among other things, portable electronics.  However, scientists do acknowledge that carrying any metallic objects increased your risk of death should lightning happen to strike.

The Russian incidents were particularly gruesome.  Last Wednesday, a lightning bolt killed three sunbathers in the town of Neftekamsk, 800 miles east of Moscow.  According to reports the bolt sent 21 feet (7.6m) of sand flying in the air.  One of the victims, Marina Sadykova, 26, a mother of a 5-month-old boy, was talking on her cell phone when the lightning struck.  Her phone was found melted to her hand, according to police.

Among other recent fatal strikes were a 10-year-old boy on a bike, another young person talking on a cell phone, and an elderly farmer tending potato plants.  Mr. Tarkov offered an additional possible cause for the recent spike in deaths -- the increase in recent storms.  He said rainfall is up 139 percent for the month and Russia has been seeing increasingly severe weather.

He described the increase in rainfall, "The absolute July maximum was observed in July 1965, when 184 millimeters (7.24 inches) of precipitation fell on Moscow.  If such weather continues, it's not unlikely for the absolute maximum to be topped."

Lightning has left many without electricity and caused fires which burnt down some houses, according to the Russian media.  To blame for the weather, according to Tarkov is a vast anticyclone that has settled over the area first carries cool humid North Atlantic winds and, hours later, subtropical heat.  He explained, "This only happens once in five to seven years.  We haven't had such intensive storm activity in a while."

In the U.S., lightning strikes in Boston this week injured 10, leaving 4 in critical condition.  So far, no deaths have been reported.  The men were attending a soccer game and all were knocked unconscious.  Michael Bosse, an EMS deputy supervisor says he has never in his 27 years on the job seen 10 or more people hit by lightning at once.

However, in this case it appears that poor choices were to blame.  The people took shelter under a tall tree.  And when the lightning started, it was naturally drawn to the tree, the largest object, and the shock traveled over the ground to the people standing nearby.

For now it appears the consensus among scientists is this -- gadgets don't cause lightning strikes, but they do make them a bit more deadly. 



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First thing to pop in my head...
By ksherman on 7/21/2008 1:59:33 PM , Rating: 4
... when I saw "Russians" and "Lightning Deaths" in the same sentence:

Tesla Coils.




By Gravemind123 on 7/21/2008 2:13:42 PM , Rating: 3
I actually thought weather control device, as the Russians aren't going to use tesla coils on themselves.


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By mmntech on 7/21/2008 2:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
Wasn't Tesla a Serb?

Lightning isn't attracted to metal, just the path of least resistance that happens to be grounded. ie You if you're dumb enough to go outside during a storm. Total BS report.


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By JasonMick (blog) on 7/21/2008 2:17:33 PM , Rating: 3
Yea its kinda alarming to consider that the guys a leading weather researcher in Russia; shows you something about their state of weather science....

On the other hand it does bring up the interesting point that carrying gadgets does increase the risk of fatal strikes, something I didn't know about previously. This appears to be scientific consensus. Granted, the chances of getting struck in the first place are miniscule, but still worth noting.


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/21/2008 3:24:16 PM , Rating: 4
Well at least that way you don't need to worry about being mained for life and living as a cripple or some such. If you get hit your likely to die outright. That's not such a bad deal since surviving a lightning strike will likely cost you heavily.


By William Gaatjes on 7/21/2008 3:44:42 PM , Rating: 2
I would think :

A high current going through a conductor. If it is high enough the conductor will melt. If it is rally high, the conductor will go with a bang. I think that bang is what is so dangerous when carrying gadgets...


By bodar on 7/21/2008 2:23:15 PM , Rating: 4
I believe this is why he thought of Russia:

quote:
The Soviets also have superior defensive capabilities against both ground attacks (the devastating Tesla Coil) and air attacks (the long-ranged SAM).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_and_Conquer:_...

Great game.


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By Clauzii on 7/21/2008 5:38:05 PM , Rating: 4
Yes, Nikola Tesla was born in the countryside, 1856, in Croatia but his father was a Serb Cardinal. When he got to the US he started to work for Eddison, that would reward him $50.000 if he could double the power of Eddisons Direct Current generators. Tesla made 24 different designs in a years time(!), but as the whole thing was a practical joke, Tesla quitted the job.

In 1887-88 he gets the AC designs in his head down on paper. He sells the patents to Eddisons competitor Westinghouse that, to Teslas satisfaction, wins the right to build New Yorks powerplants. Tesla then designs the worlds first AC powerplant, at the Niagra Falls.

He gets a new laboratory in a skyscraber which makes him very happy. A day in 1895 he made a 'little' oscillation experiment. That made windows blow and walls crumble in an area of ~1 Km2. When the police came he destroyed the machine with a hammer.

In 1898 he made a radio controlled 4.5 feet long electricity-driven boat - before radio was even invented! Tesla also claims to have send 100.000V all the way around the earth. The spark itself was to be 30 meters.

In 1915 Tesla owed $19.000 to Waldorf Astoria, but couldn't even pay the interrests, and had to give up his lab.

1917, May 16th he recieves the Eddison medal. (Tesla ran home from the ceremony to feed his pigeons!) Also in 1917, the 70 meter antenna on his former lab, in panic, got blown away by Teslas creditors and the US navy.

In his last years he lives at the Hotel New Yorker, becoming more and more weird.

He dies Jan. 7th 1943, age 87. Shortly thereafter FBI took all his papers. 21nd of June he was titled the rightfull inventor of the radio.

--

Here is a list of some of Teslas electrifying ideas:

Patent #335.786 (Teslas first), Feb. 9th, 1886, electrical arclight.

Patent #359.748, 1887: Dynamo electric machine.

Patent #381.970, May 1st, 1888: Electricity distribution system. Alternate Currents over the oceans.

Patent #382.282, May 1st, 1888: Method to convert and distribute electric currents "Like in rivers that splits and floats further on into the oceans."

Patent #383.280, May 1st, 1888: Electric transmission of power.

Patent #390.413, Oct. 2nd, 1888: System for distribuition of electricity.

Patent #433.701, Aug. 5th, 1890: Alternate Current Motor. (The idea for the induction engine came to him while telling Goethes "Faust" to a friend!)

Patent #447.921, March 10th, 1891: Alternate Current generator.

Patent #462.418, Nov. 3rd, 1891: Method and apparatus to produce and distribute electricity.

Patent #645.576, March 20th, 1900: System to transmit electic energy.

Patent #649.621, May 15th, 1900: Apperatus to transmit electric energy.

Patent #685.955, Nov. 5th, 1901: Apperatus to send and recieve elctricity through air.

Patent #685.956, Nov. 5th, 1901: Apperatus to use elctricity send through the air.

Patent #1.113.716, Oct. 13, 1914: A fountain(!).

Patent #1.655.113, Jan. 3rd, 1928: Method to travel trough the air.

Patent #1.655.114, Jan. 3rd, 1928: Apperatus to travel trough the air.


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By Justin Case on 7/21/2008 8:54:45 PM , Rating: 3
Tesla was also known to be... let's say, a specialist at self-promotion. Several of his experiments (ex., the "earthquake machine") have been repeated and the results were significantly less spectacular than what he claimed.

And radio waves were discovered in 1878 by David Hughes (and properly understood by Hertz 10 years later). Tesla himself had been using them since 1892, so the remote controlled boat (in 1898) was certainly not invented "before radio"; it took place 20 years after radio waves were discovered.


By Clauzii on 7/22/2008 5:44:22 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe this could serve as good reading:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tws09.htm


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By TaasMennaan70 on 7/22/2008 12:18:22 AM , Rating: 2
Edison


By Clauzii on 7/22/2008 5:04:29 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, thanks :)


RE: First thing to pop in my head...
By Clauzii on 7/30/2008 11:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
Just if someone comes by this old article, here is a nice Youtube video about Tesla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dxJK-K0nb8&fmt=18


By Clauzii on 7/30/2008 11:26:03 PM , Rating: 2
By eye smite on 7/21/2008 2:30:20 PM , Rating: 2
hehe, I've been struck by lightning, it's no fun.


By MrBlastman on 7/21/2008 4:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
Tesla Coils initiating a push from the south have a strategic advantage to Tesla Coils in the north...

At least, that is how it works in the original Red Alert. If you're being tesla pushed from a guy below you, you'll lose almost every time, or have a hard time staving it off with just teslas of your own. It was a fault in the game engine which only allowed the base block of a 2-block tower that a tesla coil was comprised of to register damage... Hence, the top tesla coil was able to reach the top block - BUT, only the bottom block would register a hit.

And that - is DT's useless bit of information of the day from a former Red Alert maniac.


By MaDDN3ss on 7/21/2008 5:44:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Her phone was found melted to her hand, according to police.


First thing that popped into my head was that this would be a good way to keep from losing my cell phone. :P


gadgets?
By Screwballl on 7/21/2008 2:50:29 PM , Rating: 2
Gadgets don't kill people..... lightning does.

This is a case of "more is not the cause"... as cars became more prevalent on the american landscape, more deer got hit so does that mean that deer are attracted to cars?

More people means more dumb people means more people struck by lightning.... electronics have nothing to do with it.
hmmm

100 people in the open, 99 using gadgets... 10 get struck
100 people in the open, 0 using gadgets... 10 get struck

yep electronic gadgets are to blame.




RE: gadgets?