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A naturalized citizen faces 25 years in prison for his role in sending rocket information to China

A naturalized Chinese physicist accused of exporting space launch technical data and other classified information to China has pleaded guilty in federal court.  

Shu Quan-Sheng, 68, admitted in a U.S. District Court that he copied the design of liquid hydrogen tanks to a Chinese space official, which is a violation of the Arms Export Control Act.  

The accused December 2003 violation reportedly was vital for China's current moon exploration program that has seen growing success.  China's first man went into space in 2003, which was followed by a two-man Chinese astronaut mission two years later in 2005.

The People's Liberation Army also is overseeing the construction of a space launch facility in China designed to hold liquid-propelled launch vehicles, which will be used to send astronauts into orbit.

The case had nothing to do with espionage or treason, but was done for monetary gain, Shu's attorney said.

Shu, president of AMAC International, decided to plead guilty so his wife wouldn't face charges for helping him.  AMAC works with NASA, Department of Energy, along with assisting companies export their products to China.

Prosecutors believe Shu had several employees falsify documents so he could send the information to China.

He came to the United States in 1983 and later became a naturalized citizen in 1998.

In addition to sending liquid hydrogen tanks to China, Shu admitted he bribed Beijing officials $189,300 to award a $4 million contract to a French company.  He received $386,000 after helping secure the contract, although the money will now be forfeited to the U.S. government.

Shu faces up to 25 years in federal prison and fines of up to $2.5 million USD.  He's scheduled to be sentenced in April.



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25 - Is that all?
By bobcpg on 11/18/2008 1:56:14 PM , Rating: 1
He should be put to death.




RE: 25 - Is that all?
By Ringold on 11/18/2008 2:04:41 PM , Rating: 1
Agreed. 68 + 25 = 93 = probable death sentence, but this way will just be more expensive.

At least he spared his wife from being ensnared in his troubles.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By afkrotch on 11/18/2008 2:10:52 PM , Rating: 3
He's a physicist. Use his ass and don't pay him, while keeping him detained and under close watch.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By ebakke on 11/18/2008 3:52:08 PM , Rating: 3
He's already proven he isn't trustworthy. You'd have to verify all of his work, at which point, you might as well just hire someone else.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By afkrotch on 11/18/2008 5:06:04 PM , Rating: 1
Just threaten him of jailing his wife if he screws it all up. He seems to want to protect her enough.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By paydirt on 11/19/2008 10:00:47 AM , Rating: 3
People that give secrets to foreign countries should be sentenced to death... along with folks that help arrange such things, including former top politician(s).


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By kayronjm on 11/23/2008 2:31:45 PM , Rating: 2
Most of us physicists view physics as shades of grey, at least I do. Any discovery or research is ok because it just aids our knowledgebase regardless. Anyway, my point is that I'd like to think that we are also completely disinterested in race, nationality and age. In the end, it's inconvenient for HUMANITY for two countries, two sets of divided humans, to research the same thing. Surely progress would be made faster if both co-operated their research and went even further!?
I just hate how politics gets mixed up into pure scientific research. Makes you just want to work for pure academic research so that you can freely publish anything new, for everyone, not just for your political encapsulation!


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By watermark0n on 11/18/2008 3:07:17 PM , Rating: 1
You are a disgusting barbarian.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By Ringold on 11/18/2008 3:24:18 PM , Rating: 5
He knew what he was doing, and should've known if it wasn't outright treason it was close. From wiki: In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation.

What's been the historic punishment for treason? Death. As it should be; he sold out the security of his neighbors for money.

That said, we've got far more serious offenders only doing life sentences, so 25 years isn't a surprise.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By bobcpg on 11/18/08, Rating: 0
RE: 25 - Is that all?
By MrBlastman on 11/18/2008 4:16:32 PM , Rating: 3
They should use him to conduct a physics experiment in the honor of the great India. Strap him in a capsule and launch it into the side of the moon at 3100 mph and see how it all works out. I think that is fair, and would be in the name of science too!


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By pxavierperez on 11/18/2008 4:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, I don't get why the government aren't treating as treason.


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By homebredcorgi on 11/18/2008 4:57:38 PM , Rating: 2
It isn't treason because it is a violation of ITAR, which is not classified information. Think of ITAR information as somewhere in between public knowledge and classified knowledge. It can generally have defense uses, but can also have practical commercial uses. Rather than outright ban it for commercial use in the USA, we try to limit who can use it. Certain countries are banned outright, but exceptions can and are made regularly for some of our better allies.
Had he been found to divulge classified information, he would be charged with treason.

The fact that this man divulged this information knowingly and willfully is why he is getting a lot of jail time. If it was purely accidental, it would probably only have been a year or two of jail time (still a big no-no, but a far cry from doing it on purpose...like the difference between 1st degree murder and involuntary manslaughter).

Industrial espionage is a huge market. R&D costs a TON of money...you'd be surprised what countries steal the most technical knowledge from us....


RE: 25 - Is that all?
By Jedi2155 on 11/19/2008 12:25:59 AM , Rating: 2
Which country might that be?


Idea for NBC
By JasonMick (blog) on 11/18/2008 2:01:16 PM , Rating: 4
They should do a Dateline special with Chris Hansen "To Catch a Predator Style" and change it to "To Catch a Chinese Spy".

Chris Hansen: Wait, don't leave... SO, why did you come here??
Random Dude: Umm well I thought, well that maybe the Chinese scientists might be lonely and I was going to take them out for ice cream.
Chris Hansen: Oh really?!? Well what are all those documents in your pocket and that booze you brought in your pocket. Or this... (pulls out printed page)

"I will bring you lots of documents, Mr. Ambassador. I will bring you lots of long hard documents."

Explain that one now!!

(Cops bust in and slam the guy to the ground)




RE: Idea for NBC
By JasonMick (blog) on 11/18/2008 2:06:22 PM , Rating: 1
Addendum: Every episode must feature Hansen saying:
"Why don't you have a seat over there."


RE: Idea for NBC
By DASQ on 11/20/2008 11:43:32 AM , Rating: 2
So you're comparing espionage to pedophilia. You're always clasy.


RE: Idea for NBC
By DASQ on 11/20/2008 11:44:45 AM , Rating: 2
Classy*


RE: Idea for NBC
By JonnyDough on 11/20/2008 8:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
DISAGREED!


chinese spy
By quantum759 on 11/18/2008 3:34:16 PM , Rating: 1
the patriotic idiot that said he should be put to death doesn't realize that the U.S. could trade him in a spy trade.
killing spies will encourage other countries to do the same to our spies
i know he is not technically a spy but close enough




RE: chinese spy
By heffeque on 11/18/2008 4:40:18 PM , Rating: 1
First of all, killing goes against that funny paper called Universal Declaration of Human Rights that some people prefer to ignore (and so do their governments). I say "funny" because most people think that it's a joke, otherwise I don't know why anyone would think that ignoring it is an ok thing.

Just a reminder:
"Article 3
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person."

It's not that complicated to understand.


RE: chinese spy
By rcc on 11/21/2008 10:52:28 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, so what would you have everyone do with their criminals?