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  (Source: AP)
Anonymous having internal conflict over hack

You would imagine in this advanced era of nationalist hackers and skilled internet conmen that the candidates for president and vice president would have beefed up security on their email accounts, and perhaps would not use the standard version of online services.  That logic proved incorrect with the recent revelation that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's email was hacked by a protest group.

The group 'anonymous', famous for its successful protests against scientology, and attacks on scientology's online presence due to its censorship tactics, claimed responsibility for this hack.  However, Gov. Palin's email account shows signs of in-fighting amongst the group.

Governor Palin had been using two yahoo accounts -- gov.palin@yahoo.com and her unrelated gov.sarah@yahoo.com -- both of which have since been deleted.  Hackers gained access to the first account on Tuesday, September 16.  The hackers, according to the whistle-blowing site WikiLeaks, were "loosely affiliated" with 'anonymous' and passed information to WikiLeaks following the hack. 

Hackers gained access to the account by tricking Yahoo's password recovery system, by using information such as Gov. Palin's zip code and birth date, which were widely available online or easily determined.  With the password in hand they accessed her account.  All their activities were done using the CTunnel proxy service.

The FBI is investigating the breach and is demanding CTunnel turn over its records.  CTunnel has thus far refused.  It appears that the hackers may have left the original web address used by the proxy in one of their screenshots, which the FBI is also hoping to use to track the perpetrators.  If so, this would be a huge hacking gaff.  However, there is a very real possibility that the address may be a ruse as well.

It appears that there is also infighting among the group 'anonymous' over the attack.  An individual identifying himself as the 'good anonymous' sent an email to the account which may have first revealed the attack.  He states, "You don't know me, but I am part of an internet group.  We call ourselves anonymous.  This email was hacked by anonymous, but I took no part in that.  I simply got the password back, and changed it so no further damage could be done."

Yahoo said of the incident, "Yahoo treats issues of security and privacy very seriously.  To protect the privacy of our users, we are not able to comment on the details of a specific user account.  Generally, if Yahoo! receives reports that an account has been compromised, we investigate for suspicious activity and take appropriate action."



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Please correct your info Jason
By mdogs444 on 9/22/08, Rating: 0
RE: Please correct your info Jason
By JasonMick (blog) on 9/22/2008 10:20:09 AM , Rating: 3
This may be the case M, but the Wikileaks, who holds the leaked information states the the attack was carried out by members 'loosely affiliated' with the group anonymous. Until anonymous denounces the attack, which I am not aware of doing, this assumption stands.

Anonymous is a large organization. Even if Kernell or "Rubico" and their associates were found guilty of organizing this assault, it appears that whoever did organize this hack is part of anonymous or believes themself to be, at least.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By tallcool1 on 9/22/08, Rating: 0
RE: Please correct your info Jason
By jgvandemeer on 9/22/08, Rating: 0
RE: Please correct your info Jason
By FITCamaro on 9/22/08, Rating: -1
RE: Please correct your info Jason
By masher2 (blog) on 9/22/2008 12:54:43 PM , Rating: 4
> "The Democrats and media are just pissed because now the Republicans get to claim the first woman presidential nominee"

Eh? What about Geraldine Ferraro? While I admit the media bias against Palin is certainly overwhelming, let's not distort our history here.


By FITCamaro on 9/22/2008 2:09:15 PM , Rating: 1
My apologies. How about the first with a chance in hell at winning.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By someguy123 on 9/22/2008 2:16:45 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed. Also, I agree the media is heavily bias against Palin, but I also think they have a some right to be. bringing Palin in went completely against the republican's initial stance of "experience" vs Obama, and also against their claims that Hilary was just a woman gimmick.

To get back on topic, "anonymous" isn't really a group or anything of that sort, it's the default name on a specific website, and it started out as a joke to claim your actions as part of the "anonymous". Technically everyone is anonymous, it just depends on whether they choose to follow the sort of "joke" that is calling yourself a part of the "anonymous".


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By fuser197 on 9/22/2008 2:29:12 PM , Rating: 2
Palin's got a heck of a lot more experience than Obama.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By omnicronx on 9/22/08, Rating: 0
By theendofallsongs on 9/22/2008 3:35:03 PM , Rating: 2
Obama's "experience" didn't result in him sponsoring even one major bill. Even his voting record is slapstick, he voted 'present' (neither yes or no) more often than not.

Granted, he has some experience in keeping a chair warm, but he doesn't seem to have accomplished anything at all.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By EglsFly on 9/22/2008 4:52:24 PM , Rating: 4
Is this what your trying to say:
quote:
Her resume is something we are not used to seeing for a presidential candidate
If so, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBdH7emDj0

For the entire interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ie8LDlgJ0c

You may also forget of the last several presidents have all been former Governors: Reagan, Clinton, Bush

You say that Osama has been a Senator for almost 3 years, about the same length as Palin has been Governor. I do not see how you justify that his experience is better or more so than her's, considering of those 2 1/2 years as a Senator, he spent half of it running for President instead of working in his state as a Senator, I guess voting PRESENT qualifies?


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By tallcool1 on 9/23/2008 8:33:51 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
it seems to me that it is Obama that has the edge here, and Palins statements of being more experienced are unfounded.
Other than you have completely flipped the Republican ticket to make your arguement. Its not Obama vs Palin, the political race is Obama vs McCain.
At least the republican ticket is aligned properly, where the more experienced canidate is the primary on the ticket. You cannot say that for the democrate ticket.
quote:
Of course McCain is more experienced than the both of them, but that is a different story all together.
Here you admit that McCain has the most experience of all of them, but somehow dismiss it like he is not running.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By Quiescent on 9/24/2008 10:52:17 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but Palin is going to be Vice president. I definitely do not want that woman to be vice president. I speak for many females as well. A lot of them simply do not like Palin, and I'm one of them. Even my step mother pointed out in the acceptance of being vice president speech, she put herself before her children. We don't want that for vice president. We want a woman who puts her children before herself, like every other woman in the US.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By AssBall on 9/25/2008 4:56:46 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe your mother should have actually watched the speech.


RE: Please correct your info Jason
By someguy123 on 9/23/2008 1:03:54 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't mean that Obama has more experience, just that they emphasized experience and then grabbed Palin. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll be voting for Obama, it's just something that is clearly a very easy target for the media. I'm not sure why they made the decision since it should have been very obvious the media would have a field day with it, but I guess they don't believe the media has a large effect on the election.


By sigilscience on 9/23/2008 10:27:12 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
"just that they emphasized experience and then grabbed Palin"
While the Obama camp emphasized change-- then grabbed the oldest, most entrenched politician in all Washington. Somehow the media didn't "have a field day" with that. Strange, aint it?