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Image of the glacier  (Source: NASA)
Researchers have found water ice glaciers on the Red Planet of Mars

Scientists used radar probes aboard the NASA Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter to help discover low, wide glaciers about half a mile thick can be found under layers of rocky debris on Mars.

This discovery is the biggest find of water away from the planet's northern and southern polar regions, and will likely become a target for future research by probes and possible manned missions.  The ice in the hilly sections could amount to about 10 percent of the same volume of frozen water in the Red Planet's polar ice caps.

The orbiter's shallow radar, dubbed SHARAD, is able to penetrate the surface of the planet and see what is underneath.  The two mid-latitude glaciers are massive and completely composed of water ice.

Scientists believe the debris on top of the glacier helps insulates the ice so it doesn't turn into water vapor.

"Altogether, these glaciers almost certainly represent the largest reservoir of water ice on Mars that's not in the polar caps," said John Holt, who is the lead author of the study.  "Just one of the features we examined is three times larger than the city of Los Angeles and up to one-half-mile thick, and there are many more."

The glaciers could be up to 200 million years old, and it's possible ice samples may have genetic fragments from living bacteria on the planet.  In addition to signs of life, the ice could be a good record of Mars' climate over the past few million years.

It's possible the glaciers could be remnants of larger ice sheets that existed during a Martian ice age.

"It's dramatic evidence of major climate change on Mars, presumably linked to orbital variations," Holt said.

NASA researchers have invested a lot of time and money into research on the Red Planet of Mars, with scientists especially interested in looking for signs of life or water on Mars.

The NASA Phoenix Mars Lander discovered ice on Mars, a discovery that helped convince engineers to extend the lander's lifespan.  The lander's robotic arm collected soil samples that were heated up in an internal oven, with instruments discovering water vapor.


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What happens if we do find bacteria?
By Bateluer on 11/21/2008 8:52:37 AM , Rating: 3
I really want to see human settlements on Mars in my life time, preferably beginning a terraforming process.




RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By edpsx on 11/21/2008 9:35:23 AM , Rating: 3
"Get your A$$ to mars!"


By therealnickdanger on 11/21/2008 9:43:25 AM , Rating: 5
I believe you meant to say:

"Git yo oss to mawz!"


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By FITCamaro on 11/21/2008 10:05:10 AM , Rating: 5
Well its ice....under a mountain....Quaid! Start the reactor!!!


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By MrBungle123 on 11/21/2008 10:38:50 AM , Rating: 4
That thing was made by aliens a million years ago there's no telling what it will do!


By Samus on 11/23/2008 9:53:04 PM , Rating: 2
two weeks.


By B3an on 11/24/2008 5:19:50 PM , Rating: 1
Who gives a shit what you believe? In thirty seconds you'll be dead, and I'll blow this place up and be home in time for Corn Flakes.


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By ajfink on 11/21/2008 9:36:59 AM , Rating: 2
Terraforming Mars is impractical. It is too small/lacks a powerful enough electromagnetic field to maintain a substantial enough atmosphere for human (or anything from Earth besides possibly engineered lichen) habitation.

An Earth-sized planet with a comparable electromagnetic field and the right distance from a star is really the only way it could work, give or take. (Venus also lacks a notable electromagnetic field, but holds onto its thick atmosphere despite this - but it's no good for terraforming either).

On the other hand, mining Mars, like the moon, could be quite advantageous.


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By therealnickdanger on 11/21/2008 9:45:47 AM , Rating: 2
Wouldn't such an aggressive endeavor also come with some terraforming efforts? I can't imagine going to Mars to mine it for decades/centuries even and not try to cultivate a genuinely liveable environment there.


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By Spivonious on 11/21/2008 9:58:04 AM , Rating: 3
We just need to send some replicants up there to mine it for us. Although let's skip the Nexus 6 model...


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By NubWobble on 11/21/2008 10:16:14 AM , Rating: 5
NO, we should not skip the Nexus 6!

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8

Four minute version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw

Original script:
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/blade-runner_sh...

I love the way Rutger changed the ending and entered history as Roy Batty, a timeless cult figure in the greatest sci-fi film of all time.

Rutger Hauer is the king!


By Spivonious on 11/21/2008 10:42:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'd like to see the original version sometime. Nothing will top the book though. Philip Dick was a master of sci-fi.


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 11/21/2008 10:10:39 AM , Rating: 2
What if we slow down the aging process and use the "Genesis device". Once Genesis is set off, I say we could inhabit Mars within 14 days.... Just a thought....


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By MrBungle123 on 11/21/2008 10:41:18 AM , Rating: 5
“Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible.”

-Simon Newcomb


By Cuddlez on 11/21/2008 2:13:35 PM , Rating: 3
“Quite likely the twentieth century is destined to see the natural forces which will enable us to fly from continent to continent with a speed far exceeding that of a bird. But when we inquire whether aerial flight is possible in the present state of our knowledge; whether, with such materials as we possess, a combination of steel, cloth and wire can be made which, moved by the power of electricity or steam, shall form a successful flying machine, the outlook may be altogether different.”

-Simon Newcomb


By Enoch2001 on 11/21/2008 11:07:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Terraforming Mars is impractical. It is too small/lacks a powerful enough electromagnetic field to maintain a substantial enough atmosphere for human (or anything from Earth besides possibly engineered lichen) habitation. An Earth-sized planet with a comparable electromagnetic field and the right distance from a star is really the only way it could work, give or take. (Venus also lacks a notable electromagnetic field, but holds onto its thick atmosphere despite this - but it's no good for terraforming either). On the other hand, mining Mars, like the moon, could be quite advantageous.


Agreed. I truly believe that terraforming Mars is complete science fiction, and if it someday isn't - it's still a bad idea without an electromagnetic field to protect any organic life from the sun's harmful rays (not to mention deep space cosmic rays).

If anything Mars is a natural resource that will be mined and processed, nothing more. Any settlements on it would be temporary and require huge amounts of effort just to protect life from the environment.

All that said, I'm excited to see water in large amounts readily available in the form of glaciers. Very cool!


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By Laereom on 11/21/2008 12:10:36 PM , Rating: 5
I suspect it isn't the magnetic field that really hits Mars hard. It's more likely to be the gravityVenus has 90% of Earth's gravity, and is filled with one of the heavier of the inert atmospheric gases, giving it a much higher atmospheric density than Earth. Note, however, that this forces out all of the lighter gasses. There's pretty much no O2, and very little N2. Just lots of CO2.

Mars has about 1/3 of Earth's gravity. It also has a mostly CO2 atmosphere, with a bit more oxygen and argon thrown into the mix.

This paragraph, now, is mostly speculative. There are also environmental sources/sinks of gases on each planet to consider. Earth has had a lot of its carbon dioxide sequestered by plants and microbial life forms. Furthermore, any sequestering of CO2 results in a release of oxygen. Nitrogen is the most common gas in our atmosphere, and also one of the least sequestered gases. I doubt it's a coincidence.

Now, for those reasons, and because I'm sure humans would get along better with Venus' gravity than Earth's, I suspect that Venus would be a much more likely candidate for terraforming than Earth's.

Engineer a photoautotrophic microorganism which can withstand (or even utilize) the high thermal input and atmospheric density of Venus, let it loose for awhile. Hell, even have it sequester some CO2 in the form of useful hydrocarbon fuels. Leave it alone for a few decades and see what effect it has on the atmosphere.


By drank12quartsstrohsbeer on 11/21/2008 1:35:15 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, if we could pump all of the co2 from venus to mars, that would take care of two problems at the same time


RE: What happens if we do find bacteria?
By BSMonitor on 11/21/2008 3:31:19 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, all we need is that Transforming Spaceship from Spaceballs!!!!


By JKflipflop98 on 11/22/2008 7:21:33 AM , Rating: 2
It's MegaMaid sir! She's gone from suck to blow! *gasp*